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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Malignancy on July 21, 2011, 05:51 pm

Title: Cold water extraction
Post by: Malignancy on July 21, 2011, 05:51 pm
I just got a refill on my Lortab 10s and have been reading about CWE.  I crushed up four pills and pour some water I had chilled in the freezer.  Let the APAP setting to the bottom and chugged everything except the powder at the bottom.  It seems there's many different (and extravagant) ways to do it but I'm buzzing pretty good.  Does anyone have a better way or am I doing it right?
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: chronicpain on July 21, 2011, 06:16 pm
I would probably filter it through a coffee filter. That way you won't lose as much hydro...
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: btcfreedom on July 21, 2011, 07:54 pm
@ Chronic you got it.

in addition to that you might want to wet the coffee filter a bit, freeze it, and when ready for your CWE, utilize it. This can help unbinding a bit from the APAP. It also reduces the risk of a torn filter (oops!)
also, very fine grade cloth works great too....t-shirt etc. just make sure it's not dyed :P
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: joeblow2 on July 22, 2011, 10:07 am
I always used cheescloth.  They sell it at every grocery.  Usually as a kind of cleaning cloth.   You can wash and reuse it.  Lasts forever.  :D

And with cheesecloth or a t-shirt section, you don't have to worry about tearing. 
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: cronus12 on July 22, 2011, 07:24 pm
1. Crush up all pills for a dose

2. Put 60ml of water at 104 degrees Fahrenheit(40 degrees Celsius) into a small glass.

3. Throw the crushed pills into it and stir for a few minutes to ensure all large clumps and pieces appears as a fine powder in the water.

4. Cool the glass + contents to 50 degrees Farenheit(10 degrees Celsius).  Putting ice cubes into a shallow bowl with water will cool it much faster than putting in a freezer.

5. Quickly take the glass and contents out of cooling and pour all the contents through a coffee filter. (General lab grade filter paper is better) You will probably want to cut the coffee filter smaller so that all your liquid does not absorb in it.

6. As soon as the liquid has filtered carefully squeeze the clump of powder in the filter to get as much more of the liquid as you can.

Testing your product.
***This is an optional step to see if it worked ok or not.  Once you do this a few times you will get the hang of it and be able to whip up a batch in ten minutes***
Cool the liquid to 50 degrees Farenheit(10 degrees Celsius) and see if it appears cloudy or not.  If cloudy your filter was not good enough so you will need to double them up or buy a better filter paper.


You can now slam the liquid back and take a swig of juice and a few soda crackers to chase it down.  This has been used time and time again with no ill effects and really reduces the chances of getting too much APAP in our solution.  1g of APAP is the max single does and is impossible to get even close to that amount using this method.  Be careful with your techniques as you can lose your liver with APAP, a very painful way to die.
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: btcfreedom on July 22, 2011, 11:44 pm
1. Crush up all pills for a dose

2. Put 60ml of water at 104 degrees Fahrenheit(40 degrees Celsius) into a small glass.

3. Throw the crushed pills into it and stir for a few minutes to ensure all large clumps and pieces appears as a fine powder in the water.

4. Cool the glass + contents to 50 degrees Farenheit(10 degrees Celsius).  Putting ice cubes into a shallow bowl with water will cool it much faster than putting in a freezer.

5. Quickly take the glass and contents out of cooling and pour all the contents through a coffee filter. (General lab grade filter paper is better) You will probably want to cut the coffee filter smaller so that all your liquid does not absorb in it.

6. As soon as the liquid has filtered carefully squeeze the clump of powder in the filter to get as much more of the liquid as you can.

Testing your product.
***This is an optional step to see if it worked ok or not.  Once you do this a few times you will get the hang of it and be able to whip up a batch in ten minutes***
Cool the liquid to 50 degrees Farenheit(10 degrees Celsius) and see if it appears cloudy or not.  If cloudy your filter was not good enough so you will need to double them up or buy a better filter paper.


You can now slam the liquid back and take a swig of juice and a few soda crackers to chase it down.  This has been used time and time again with no ill effects and really reduces the chances of getting too much APAP in our solution.  1g of APAP is the max single does and is impossible to get even close to that amount using this method.  Be careful with your techniques as you can lose your liver with APAP, a very painful way to die.

+1

On point.

~B
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: nomad bloodbath on July 25, 2011, 01:51 pm
If you are doing more than say a 1500-2000mg+ of APAP you might want to double filter, because the first pass doesn't get it all out. :D
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: MenACE2SocietY on August 21, 2012, 01:06 pm
great write up on bluelight probably something on erowid too ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: OuterLimits on April 01, 2013, 05:28 pm
And with cheesecloth or a t-shirt section, you don't have to worry about tearing.

Would cutting out a piece of a regular white cotton t-shirt work good? Coffee filters have been a pain in the ass, a single drip every few seconds. I even tried the cone shaped filters...

I'm confused as to whats the best amount of water to be used per 10 pills. Sometimes I use 10, some times 12, and on a rough day I've even used 14. I have a high tolerance. Some people say use no more than 50ml others say you have to use 150ml....any clarification here?

Also I'm using yellow 10mg hydrocodone norco (watsons or vicodins), so the solution is always going to come out yellow, but the goal is to have a clear yellow liquid and not cloudy.

I am currently adding about 100ml of hot water to the crushed pills in a mason jar, shaking vigorously for a few mins and then let it cool down before I place the jar in a bowl of ice and some water which I sit in the fridge for about an hour until all the APAP solidifies at the bottom.

I think I'm fucking up somewhere because I'm not getting nearly the effect if I just chew them up and eat them but I take 10-15 norco 10's a day and I can't keep putting my liver through that much hell...
Title: Re: Cold water extraction
Post by: bealzebobs on April 04, 2013, 09:12 am
I've done this extraction a couple times. Its best to just buy your stuff without APAP in it, then you dont have to mess around with the procedure. Over time APAP can build up in your liver and do some serious irreparable damage!